plus sub section on Lucy Way Sistare Say, a.k.a.
Lucy Say
Carol Sutton 
Water Spirals &
Aqua Nebula 
by Walter Darby Bannard1983
| DATE:November
19 to December 8,1983 |
- Exhibition essay for show at Gallery
One, Toronto
- Paintings Series:Water
Spirals & Aqua Nebula TM
- by Walter Darby Bannand
|
 PLACE:Toronto, Ontario, Canada |
CASSIS LINNE ©
Carol Sutton,
- measurements: 79.5 x 89 in.; 201.9 x 226.1 cm,description:
Water Spiral Series. (Triangle Artist Workshop, July 1983), Golden acrylic
on canvas, 1987
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- CAROL SUTTON'S NEW PAINTINGS
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- Abstraction carries an uncomfortable authority these
days, uncomfortable in the making, uncomfortable in the market, forced,
Atlas-like, to carry the weight of the art of painting against the odds.
Painting which operates only on its own terms doesn't give much of a handle
to grab, doesn't let appreciation come in at different "levels",
doesn't make it easy. The market has long recognized the pre-eminence of
abstraction, implicit at least, but insists on vulgarizing if for the sake
of sales. The "New Expressionism" like Pop Art before it, is
watered-down, middle-brow abstraction with illustration hung on it. It
should be called "de-abstraction". The straight realist painting
today, as any sensitive observer knows, is far better than the pseudo-abstraction
now so much in favour, and operates, from the inception, on a much higher
plane of integrity.
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- Being an abstract painter is a courageous commitment,
assuring exquisite frustration in the market. But it is easier for us than
it was for Abstract Expressionists. The market sees us as hopelessly out
of touch, beyond earshot, even, off the band-wagon. But at least they don't
think we're loonies. Some of us even make a living form art. And there
is an evolving environment of support and professional encouragement, if
not sales, manifested, for example, by the Triangle Workshop in Pine Plains,
NY, where I saw some of the paintings in this show.
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- If abstraction has a hard time in the market, it's hard
in the making too. Realism serves up two made-to-order ingredients which
do half the job for the artist: a "scene", which tells in detail
what the painting will look like, or can look like, and deep space, a place
to put the pieces where they can relate easily across and open interior.
This doesn't make it easier for realist paint to be good, just easier
to get started, and it clarifies what has to be done to work it through.
The Abstract painter has to invent everything. I think that's why most
of the best painters of the first generation of abstractionists matured
so late, and why so few of them were consistently good. The first maps
of any new territory are the roughest.
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- The first job of the abstract painter is to work out
a scheme to make elements on a visually flat surface relate convincingly
across the natural resistance of that surface: de Kooning expanded Cubism,
Kline built black and white skeletons, Pollock wove airy nets, Rothko scrubbed
on fuzzy, symmetric rectangles. Then come Frankenthaler's pastel stains,
Louis's centrifugal stream, Noland's bright targets, Olitski's crammed
edges. Each contrived a structure to replace that of depicted reality.
Each left his invention in the inventory of form. There's a lot available
to us now. That's one reason why there are so many artist of Carol Sutton's
generation painting so well, so young without the painful blocks and disruptions
that plagued the older painters.
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- Sutton's paintings of the last few years show us what
a sharp, practical talent can do with what's come down to us. They give
the impression of an untroubled inheritance, an art of enrichment rather
than extremity, with a felicitous, unaffected directional structure, soft,
pungent colour, surface open and breathing inside and around the edges,
values often close but unforced, the stroke casual, unhurried , rippling
carelessly like a banner in an easy wind. I know this doesn't give away
what went into the pictures. All painters, certainly all young, serious
painters, spend their days agonizing over their art. It is to Sutton's
credit that the character of her painting belies the effort that went into
them. There's a very fine long, horizontal asymmetric picture called Titan
in the Edmonton Art Gallery
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- which sums it up. Its easy going three-part composition
is made up of one long diagonal jammed up with thick brushed acrylic greens,
an opposing diagonal, very open, lightly swiped with orange and blue, and
shots of yellow and lilac spray here and there, alongside and between the
other colours. A sensual charge flows for the colour, intensified by the
compression of the horizontal edges, which also precludes any left-over
space around the attenuated diagonals.
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- Left-over space has been a problem for Sutton. The horizontal/diagonal
pictures all have that nice colour-charge, sensual sweep and sparkling
value change. But while a squarish painting filled top-to-bottom with horizontal
layers well overload and short out the expressive effects, a squarish painting
with a few layers asks that the remaining space be brought in the picture.
There is nothing wrong with this situation. Olitski took it to an extreme
in his great spray paintings of the 60's. Sutton handles this "extra"
space skillfully but often as an afterthought, a necessity. And in art
necessity can kill invention.
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- It may be fair to say that the two constituents of the
superior artist are talent and seriousness - the ability to make good art
plus the determination to make better art. And often it seems that the
latter is 99% of it. Seriousness is what makes an artist fight herself
and mess up a perfectly good style or method and go on to things unexpected,
unfamiliar and usually unwelcome, losing customers and critical favour
along the way. It's scary, and it is wasteful and destructive. But it's
also the way art gets better. I'd guess that Sutton's new paintings will
dismay many of her fans, because she has taken the familiar layered formation
and rolled it up like a pile of rugs, a loose spiral which is ungainly,
lacks clarity and certainly sits more awkwardly inside the painted rectangle
than the familiar landscape form.
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- I think Sutton instinctively recognizes that her art,
though carried by structure, get its life from variety of effect. The horizontal
format tempted her to decorate, to lay on some handsome, arbitrary stroke
or puff of spray, to get that space filled up with nice colour. By folding
the layered horizontals over on themselves the painting was de-attenuated,
concentrated, stuffed. The rectangle had to go back toward the square,
and the "left-over" areas, though still a problem, diminish,
hide in corners, and pick up various compositional duties and the structure,
clustered rather than dispersed, offers a more fully rationalized environment
for the playful bits of paint which enliven the picture.
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- Sutton made this change late in 1982, painting a number
of pictures which look like the earlier pictures rolled up. But something
else began working its way into the paintings, something for which it now
seems the new format was designed. For want of a better word, I'll call
it "indelicacy". The colours got dark, puddled and smudged, the
strokes coarsened, the intermediate passages clogged up. The paintings
in the show, most of which were painted at Triangle workshop this summer,
take it even further. Without knowing all of Sutton's work I'd bet they
are the best paintings she's done.
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- They are not perfect. XENOPHORA EXUTUS, thought I saw
it unstretched, seems too complex to be so symmetrical. Stretched up it
might work - that marvelous breaking light might hold it. The rolled section
of VENUS RANG divides off just a bit too much from the rest of the picture.
WOBBLY KEYHOLE goes a little dark in the centre. There are arguable conclusions,
based on slides and memory. And perfection is not the aim of good art.
The paintings are first-rate, and new, and that's enough.
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- One of them CASSIS LINNE, gets out a little further than
the rest, into another mode of picture-making, one that may be quite fruitful
in the long run. The good thing about making changes is the oddities that
come up. CASSIS LINNE is coloursitically duller than the other show paintings,
less rich even that the grey and white IMPERIAL DELPHINULA and CHARONIA
TRITIONIS, and it lacks the usual jivey surface embellishment. The spiraling
darker areas turn ponderously until they hit the lighter centre, which
seems to come from behind, to break through, like the moon through night
clouds. This pushes the slow, smokey, smudged surround into the foreground,
vitalizing it and vitalizing the picture, just as a stone hole shocks the
glazed placidity of a window pane. It is a fine effect, and fine painting.
The titles, incidentally , are seashells names, which are appropriate even
if they encourage the mis-understanding of the "meaning" hounds,
the people who still think the title comes before the painting and the
critics who ran out of things to say before they learned to talk. Maybe
you've got to hand these people something to deal with, because it looks
to me as if these pictures are going to be tough to swallow. Well, the
tougher the better. It only testifies to their quality and originality.
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| DATE: 1983 |
- Gallery One, Gallery Exhibition -Carol Sutton
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PLACE:Toronto, Ontario, Canada |
1983- " Water Spirals & Aqua Nebula",1984 - Rooster Conch,
(Brochure text written by Darby Bannard, with Biographical Notes written
by Carol Sutton), Gallery One, Toronto, Ontario, Canada, November 19 to
December 8, 1983
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CHARONIA TRITON (WATER SPIRAL SERIES), 80 1/2 " x 91", 'Golden'
acrylic on canvas, 1983
- © Carol Sutton
- date: 1983
- materials: Golden acrylic on canvas
- measurements: 80 1/2 " x 91"
- description: Water Spiral Series.(Triangle Artist Workshop, July 1983)]
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Painting titled CASSIS LINNE online at CCCA site.
Now has about 20,000 images by about 400 artists:
http://www.ccca.ca {Now must navigate to my name: click
'Artists', or 'Toronto' section under location.]
CASSIS LINNE
(WATER SPIRAL SERIES)
materials: Golden acrylic on
canvas
measurements: 79.5 x 89 in.;
201.9 x 226.1 cm
description: Water Spiral Series.
(Triangle Artist Workshop, July 1983).
Rooster Conch © Carol Sutton
date: 1984
materials: Golden acrylic on canvas
measurements: 33.5 x 51 in.; 85.1 x 129.5 cm
description: Water Spiral Series.
WALTER
DARBY BANNARD: "from: Water Spirals & Aqua Nebula -The titles, incidentally, are seashell names, which are appropriate even if they encourage
the misunderstanding of the "meaning Hounds, the people who still
think the title comes before the painting and the critics who ran out of
thing to say before they learned to talk. Maybe you've got to hand these
people something to deal with, because it looks to me as if these pictures
are going to be tough to swallow. Well, the tougher the better. It only
testifies to their quality and originality."
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- (1983- brochure for 'The Water
Spiral Series' shown at Gallery One, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
- Walter Darby Bannard- Carol Sutton's New Paintings,
exhibition catalogue essay, Gallery One, Toronto, Ontario, Canada,
November 1983)
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LUCY WAY SISTARE CONNECTION: TO SEASHELLS: 
SEASHELL TITLES USED BY CAROL SUTTON, who is descendant of the SISTARE
/ SUSTARE FAMILY.
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- Lucy
Way SISTARE
- Sex: Female
- Event(s):
- Birth: 28 Nov 1800
- New London Twp, New London, Connecticut
- Death: 15 November 1886 , in Lexington, Massachusetts, of pneumonia.
- Age eighty five, almost eighty six years old.
- Burial: New York City
- Parents:
- Father: Joseph SISTARE (1774-1829)
- Mother: Nancy Way (1775-1829)
- Residence: several trips to New Harmony, IN, lived with her sister
on Staten Island.
- Married: 4 Jan 1827; secretly married by civil ceremony in the courthouse
at Mt. Vernon, Indiana, attended only by Virginia Dupalais and Louisa Neef.
- SPOUSE: Say, Thomas (27 Jan,1787- Oct 10, 1834, 7:00PM, evening) .
Entomologist, conchologist. {see more below}
- Relationship to Carol Lorraine Sutton is: 1C4R
{First Cousin Fourth Removed}
- Occupation: Artist, illustrator of seashells and nature studies,
wilderness explorer, executor of husband's Thomas SAY estate, posthumous
publication of Say's work. Honor: the first woman elected to Academy of
Natural Sciences membership , studied under Audubon and Lesueur in 1824
-SEE SISTARE INSTRUCTION -BELOW .
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- Thomas Say, American
Conchology, or Descriptions of the Shells of North America Illustrated
From Coloured Figures From Original Drawings Executed from Nature,
Parts 1 - 6, New Harmony, 1830-1834; Part 7, Philadelphia, 1836. (Some
of the illustrations in American Conchology were drawn by Mrs. Say.)
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- [Charles Wilson Peale, an oil
portrait of Thomas Say in the uniform of the first Long Expedition,
1819; Collection of the Academy of Natural Sciences of Philadelphia]
- Lucy's SISTARE LINE: GENEALOGY DATA:
- Lucy
Way Sistare 1, sister to Sarah Lord Sistare, (born: 4 Nov 1816, New
York City, New York, who married:18 Dec 1835, Reformed Protestant Dutch
Church Of NY, by John Knox to Consul General of Nassau for United States
of America William Augustus{Carl Wilhelm} KOBBE ; Noted Business Man Of
New York City and the official Representative Of The Duchy Of Nassau, a
Merchant.. Sarah Lord Sistare Kobbe died age 79 in 1896 in New York City.
{Sarah had 10 siblings.}
- ________________________
- Joseph
Sistare 2, {older brother to sibling: John Thomas Sistare, born in
1790, who was progenitor of the Kershaw, Lancaster District, South Carolina
line of Sistare's and Sustare's.} and Nancy Way (born: 6 Oct 1775, New London or New Haven,
Connecticut, died: age 53, in the house of her father-in-law, John Way,
on 21 Aug 1829) Daughter of John WAY (Born: 6 Oct 1740[2843] at: New London,
New London, CT
- Died: 11 Apr 1831[2844] at: New London, New London, CT) and Lucy LORD
(24 Apr 1749 - 18 Aug 1789); also of New London , New London, CT. Joseph
and Nancy had at least 11 children. {Joseph had 6 siblings.}
- ________________________
- Captain
Lazaro José Gabriel Sistéré/Sistare/Sistarre 3,
[a.k.a. Don Gabriel Sistare y Mityavila] [born: 1 May 1725 in Barcelona,
Spain-
died: 25 February 1795 at the age of 69; in New London, Connecticut][GGGG
Grandfather to Carol Sutton]
- and Elizabeth
BEEBE, daughter of Nathaniel BEEBE Jr. (1710->1767) and Lydia Griffin
(~1713->1767) {born: abt 1756, died, 11 September 1798, age 42, New
London, Connecticut] Elizabeth was of English descent.
- ________________________
- Don
Gabriel Sistare Sr. 5 , father of the Captain who came to America,
Don Gabriel lived in Spain, Barcelona?,
- [TIME LINE: Before Reign Of Felipe V Was The
First Spanish Bourbon King; 1700: With the death of Charles II, the dynasty
of the Habsburg comes to an end and the War of the Spanish Succession breaks
out, in which France, England and Austria are involved. ]
- ;born: about 1700, died: August 1734, in Barcelona, Spain or at Sea,
[5G Grandfather of Carol Sutton, m. before 1724 to
- Marie Mityavila,
[5Great Grandmother of Carol Sutton] born: San Martin, Cassa De La Selva,
Gerona, Spain?, a cork producing place, about 1700, died : after 1726,
- ________________________
- Don
Gabriel SISTARE/CISTERE 6, circa: born before 1680, Spain
- ________________________
- © by Carol Lorraine Sutton, daughter of Nancy Chester SUSTRE [
Nancy Chester Sustare is of the John Thomas Sistare line; i.e. Joseph Sistare
2, brother.], April 4, 2002.
- TO VIEW CAROL's own SUSTARE or SUSTAR or SISTARE:
( Various spellings include-Sistaire, Sistera, Cistéré, Sistéré,
Sistaré, Sistaire, Sustare, Sisstare, Sustar, Sistair, Sistar, Sistarelli)
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- Genealogy
of Sustare -my Maternal side
-
- NEW
EDITED PAGE; Re-designed in 2003:
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- Southern
branch of Sustare's from South and North Carolina & Virginia
-
- decendants
of Captain Don Gabriel Sistare ( new full name -Lazaro
José Gabriel Sistare II)
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- of
Barcelona, Spain and then from New London, Connecticut, 1771,
born 1725
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WEBSITE: http://www.geocities.com/clsutton45/sustare-sistare_nc_va.html
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- Lucy and Thomas are both listed in Latter Day Saints files
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- SISTARE
, LUCY Way, INSTUCTION had been the
finest at Marie Fretageot's boarding school
- Charles
Alexander Lesueur (1 January 1778,Havre-de-Grace, France- 12 December 1846, Havre,
France) and Audubon, John James ( birth date and place is disputed , New Orleans,
1780 or Aux Cayes, Haiti, 1785 -death date is undisputed at 1851)
- link:http://www.inhs.uiuc.edu/~ksc/Malacologists/LesueurC.A.html
- link:http://www.audubon.org/nas/jja.html
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- Quote- P.T. Stroud, from pages 266 and 267; {also
see 210: Lucy Say's study with Lesueur} : "Lucy
could have been an artist of note had circumstances been more favorable
to her talent's development, for her early instruction had been of the
finest. At Marie Fretageot's boarding school at Twelfth and Walnut
Streets in Philadelphia, both Lesueur {Charles
Alexander} and Audubon had been her teaches. In describing
to Benjamin Tappan her nine-week stay in Philadelphia during the
summer of 1837, she mentioned that in addition to meeting Thomas Nuttall
for the first time, "[I] saw also my old teacher in drawing Mr.
Audubon who I had not seen since 1824 -- and then his great work had
not yet been put into the
hands of the engraver." {footnote -28 - is: [Lucy Say to
Benjamin Tappan, New York, 1 October 1837, Tappan Papers, Library of Congress.]}
- [Painting to left: A detail of a painting by Karl Bodmer,
1833, Watercolor. Collection: Joslyn Art Museum, Omaha, Nebraska; title:
'Lesueur, the Naturalist, at New Harmony'.]
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- ----When Audubon had come to Philadelphia in the spring of 1824
in his unsuccessful attempt to find a publisher for his bird paintings,
he was as usual in need of money and had looked for work teaching drawing
to young ladies k as he had done elsewhere in the past. Through his friendship
with his fellow Frenchman Lesueur, whom he had met at the Academy
of Natural Sciences, Audubon most likely secured a temporary position
at Me. Fretageot's school, where Lesueur had been teaching
for three years.
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- ----Lucy had also seen part of the printed
version of Audubon's Birds of America ( the publication was
not concluded until 1838) at the Academy that summer; the members had subscribed
for a complete copy of the elephant folios for five hundred dollars. She
observed to Tappan: " Many and various opinions are expressed
as to the merits of the work and the author - I am disappointed in the
execution of the plates - considering the immense aid which he had at command
and the price demanded for each volume." { footnote 29- } In mentioning
the diversity of opinions expressed about Audubon and his work,
Lucy alluded to the controversy over
his scientific accuracy in depicting birds. One plate showed mockingbirds
under attack by a rattlesnake, for example, and some Academy members refused
to believe that such a confrontation was possible, In fact, later observers
proved Audubon correct: it is now known that the canebrake rattler,
common in the south , does indeed climb trees to dine on birds and their
eggs. {footnote 30- [ Robert Elman, 'First in the Field: America's Pioneering
Naturalists' (New York: Mason/Carter, 1977), 82.]. As to Lucy's
remarks on the quality of the engraving, one can only surmise
that her own attempts at the art had given he a thoroughly critical eye.
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- ----Of Lucy's two teachers, one
achieved a fame that would become monumental with the years, while the
other would remain unknown to all but a few. " but what can be done
in regard to Lesueur?" Harris [Thaddeus W. had written
to her in 1835. " [He] seems forever lost to his friends and to the
world, after a debut the most brilliant. Will he too pass away without
leaving behind him any memorial so his eventful career, or any one to record
this history of his life & labours? {footnote-31 [Harris to Lucy Say,
pencil draft dated 1835, Harris Papers, Houghton Library, Harvard University.]}
- ----After Say's death and Lucy's departure,
no one remained in New Harmony
about whom Lesueur really cared, except his ward, Virginia
Dupalais, [C.L.S. add in- Remember that Virginia
Dupalais had been witness to Thomas Say and Lucy Way Sistare's wedding
in 4 Jan 1827.] who had married and settled there. He had planned
for years to return to France, so in 1837 he at last boarded the steamboat
for New Orleans and sailed to LeHavre. For a while he lived in Paris near
the Jardin de Plantes, earning a marginal living by teaching drawing, until
in 1845 he was chosen to direct a new natural history museum in his native
Le Havre. Lesueur moved there with his brother to a small house
near the sea, to begin at last a career with both the prestige to which
he had so long been entitled and the scope to use his prodigious talents.
But he died suddenly of heart failure the following year, on 12 December
1846, a the age of sixty-eight."
- {part of this last paragraph from page 168- STROUD} END Quote.
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- MORE NOTES ON THOMAS SAY
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- Thomas SAY
- Sex: Male
- Event(s):
- Birth: 27 Jun 1787 ,Philadelphia, Phila., Pennsylvania
- Death: Oct 10, 1834, 7:00 PM, evening, New Harmony, Indiana
Burial: ?-[find
a grave]- Behind
a house on the corner of Main and Grainery, New Harmony, Posey County,
Indiana USA
- (has
a lovely light drenched photo of his grave showing metal plate sign and
a biography by Leonard L. Brown.)
- LINK:http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GScid=640702&GRid=11835&
- http://www.findagrave.com/index.html
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- Parents:
-
- Father: Benjamin SAY (born:28 Aug 1755, in Philadelphia,
Philadelphia County, Pa. and died: 23 Apr 1813, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
County, PA; Burial Location Unknown., Honors: Congressman, U.S. Representative
From Pennsylvania 1st District, 1808-09.;Soldier Served In The Continental
Army During The Revolutionary War; Quaker/(Doctor Of Physic) (In Trust)
For The Religious Society Of Friends, Known By Name Free Quakers.
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- Mother: Ann BONSALL ( born: ? , died: 1793)
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- "Thomas Say accompanied William Maclure and other
scientists and educators from Philadelphia on the famous "Boatload
of Knowledge." The party arrived in New Harmony, Indiana, in January,
1826. One of the passengers was the artist Lucy
Way Sistare, whom Say married secretly, near New Harmony, on
January 4, 1827.
- "In New Harmony, Say continued his descriptions
of insects and mollusks, culminating in two classics (See books just below):
"
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UPDATE URL: http://faculty.evansville.edu/ck6/bstud/say.html
THOMAS SAY- (1787-1834)-
father of American entomology
... New Harmony, Indiana, in January, 1826. One
of the passengers was the artist Lucy Way Sistare, whom Say married secretly, near New Harmony, on
January 4, 1827.
- ... with hyper links
- "In 1818 Say accompanied Maclure and others members of the Academy
on an expedition to the off-shore islands of Georgia and Florida. In 1819-20,
Major Stephen H. Long led an exploration to the Rocky Mountains with Thomas
Say as zoologist, and in 1823, Say served as zoologist in Long's expedition
to the headwaters of the Mississippi River.
- During the 1819-20 expedition, Say first described the coyote, swift
fox, western kingbird, band-tailed pigeon, Say's phoebe, rock wren, lesser
goldfinch, lark sparrow, lazuli bunting, and orange-crowned warbler.
- "Say was a taxonomist, as were most of the early entomologists,
and he described considerably more than 1,000 new species of beetles and
over 400 insects of other orders,
including species in every important insect order. A hasty check
of his writings shows 404 new species definitely listed from Indiana, including
eight orders, as follows:
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- 205 Hymenoptera [e.g., bees, wasps, ants] [See thief ant
to the left]
- 111 Diptera [e.g., flies, mosquitos]
- 17 Coleoptera [beetles]
- 38 Hemiptera [e.g., squash bug, stink bug]
- 11 Homoptera [e.g., cicadas]
- 1 Neuroptera [e.g., lacewings]
- 5 Ephemerida [e.g., mayflies]
- 16 Odonata [e.g., dragonfiles, damselflies]"
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"In New Harmony, Say continued
his descriptions of insects and mollusks, culminating in two classics: "
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TWO BOOKS BY THOMAS SAY:
Thomas Say, American
Entomology, or Descriptions of the Insects of North America,
3 volumes, Philadelphia, 1824-1828.
Thomas Say, American
Conchology, or Descriptions of the Shells of North America Illustrated From
Coloured Figures From Original Drawings Executed from Nature,
Parts 1 - 6, New Harmony, 1830-1834; Part 7, Philadelphia, 1836. 
(Some of the illustrations in American Conchology
were drawn by Mrs. Say.)
[Illustration, from page 211, in the Patricia Shroud book, titled: Thomas
Say : New World Naturalist; quote: "Fig. 40. Arca zebra, "inhabits
the coastof the peninsula of Florida," by Lucy Say, plate 66 of American
Conchology. Watercolor. Courtesy of the American Philosophical Society."
end quote. ]
acra zebra shell illustration by Lucy Way Sistare (Say)
- Links honoring Thomas Say
- Canis latrans Say, [coyote]
- Vulpes velox Say, [swift fox]
[see 'Say vulpes velox swift fox'
to right]
- Indiana State Insect (Proposed): Pyractomena angulata (Say), [Say's
firefly]
- Leptinotarsa decimlineata (Say), [Colorado potato beetle]
- Solenopsis molesta (Say), [thief ant]
- Birds named by or in honor of Say (Photos by Peter LaTourrette)
- Audubon drawings of birds first described by Thomas Say
- Birds named by Say (Photos by Harold Holt)
- Insects named by Say (3 photos)
- American Entomology, Thomas Say's book, the first of its kind
- Fishes Named in Honor of Thomas Say (drawing by Lesueur)
- [Above portion from Say on EVANSVILLE
EDU. URL: http://faculty.evansville.edu/ck6/bstud/say.html
- +
- Thomas
Say-(June 27, 1787 October 10, 1843) was an American naturalist,
entomologist, malacologist and crustaceologist.-
- right Thomas Say (June 27, 1787 October 10, 1843)
was an American naturalist, entomologist, malacologist and crustaceologist.
He was a taxonomist and is often considered to be the founder of descriptive
entomology in the United States. Thomas Say was born in Philadelphia into
a prominent Quaker family.
- web - http://www.termpapertopic.org/th/thomas-say.html
- &
- SAY names Chesapecten Jeffersonus
(Say) A 4 million year old fossil (extinct
scallop that lived in the early pliocene epoch
between four and five million years ago on Virginia's coastal plain.)-
In 1824, geologist John Finch gathered a large collection of mollusk
fossils, including Chesapecten
Jeffersonius from the vicinity of Yorktown, Virginia, and gave
them to scientists at the Academy of Natural Sciences of Philadelphia (ANSP).
Chesapecten Jeffersonius (Outside) Scientist Thomas Say, at ANSP, described
the species and named it Pecten jeffersonius to honor Thomas Jefferson.
- http://www.termpapertopic.org/ch/chesapecten-jeffersonius.html
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- Thanks go to Dr. Gary E. Lohman of Great Mills,
Maryland for alerting me to these ancient
fossil shells and others named by Thomas Say, of the Upper Miocene
Epoch and the Pliocene Epoch. Such as:
- Family Naticidae ( commonly called Moon Shell), of the St. Mary's Formation:
- Polinices duplicatus (Say) and Lunatia heros (Say), both are fauna of the Maryland
Upper Miocene era.
- also the:
- Turritella plebia (Say), also in the St.
Marys County, Maryland, USA site of Miocene formations. "It is a relatively
small form with more or less convex whorls that are marked with fine uniform,
or uniformly alternating, spiral ribs."
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- Phylum ...............Class...............Genus.............Species
- Mollusca............Gastropoda.........Turritella..........plebia
TWO BOOKS ABOUT THOMAS SAY:
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: Thomas Say : Early American Naturalist
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0405107374/qid=1017944411/sr=1-5/ref=sr_1_5/002-2333128-5555228
- title: Thomas Say:
Early American Naturalist
- author: Harry B. Weiss, Grace M.
Ziegler
- Hardcover (June 1978)
- Ayer Co Pub; ISBN: 0405107374
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- First published in 1931
- List Price: $26.95/Our Price: $26.95 at Amazon
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- AND:
- title: Thomas Say
: New World Naturalist
- author: Patricia Tyson Stroud [herself
a member of the SAY family]
- ISBN: 0-8122-3103-1
- Publisher: University of Pennsylvanis Press
- (First full biography of Thomas Say in sixty years)
- © 1992-Thr Barra Foundation, Inc.
- Cover illustration: Portrait of Thomas Say by Charles
Wilson Peale. oil painting,
- Courtesy of The Academy of Natural Sciences of Philadelphia.
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-
- Included in book Thomas Say : New World Naturalist,
from page 270, quote: "Fig. 45. Lucy Say in old age, ca. 1880.
Photograph. Courtesy of The Academy of Natural Sciences of Philadelphia."
- by author: Patricia Tyson Stroud
- Oval photographic portrait of Lucy Sistare Say, was done
late in her life about 1880:
ADDITIONAL WEB SITES ARE:
OWEN
MSS.http://www.indiana.edu/~liblilly/lilly/mss/html/owen.html
- 2k -
... Dale Owen, Richard Owen, Robert Owen, Robert Dale Owen, 1801-1877,
Robert Dale Owen, 1879-1917, William H. Owen, WA Page and Mrs.
Lucy Way (Sistare) Say. ...
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The Owen mss., 1821-1911, are, in the main, letters and papers of Richard
Owen, 1810-1890, son of Robert Owen, professor at Indiana University, and
first president of Purdue University, and his descendants. Included are
also some letters of other members of the Owen family and prominent New
Harmony, Indiana, citizens.
Among the correspondents are John William Boehne, Jeremiah Tilford Boyle,
James LeRoy Davenport, Mrs. Jane Dale (Owen) Fauntleroy, Emery A. Foster,
J. B. Hunter, Mrs. Anna Eliza (Neef) Owen, David Dale Owen, Eugene Fellenberg
Owen, Horace Pestalozzi Owen, Mrs. Katharine (Fitton) Owen, Katharine Dale
Owen, Malcolm Dale Owen, Richard Owen, Robert Owen, Robert Dale Owen, 1801-1877,
Robert Dale Owen, 1879-1917, William H. Owen, W. A. Page and Mrs. Lucy
Way (Sistare) Say. The first folder in the collection contains biographical
information on Robert Dale Owen, David Dale Owen and William Owen, sons
of Robert Owen. See also Arthur H. Estabrook, "The Family History of
Robert Owen," Indiana Magazine of History, XIX, 63-101, March 1923.
Collection size: 163 items For more information about this collection and
any related materials contact the Manuscripts Department, Lilly Library,
Indiana University, Bloomington, IN 47405 -- Telephone: (812) 855-2452.
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"Papers, 1819-1883. ca. 40 items, 62 drawings and impressions.
Chiefly on natural history, shells, and insects, including miscellaneous
notes on conchology by Say; photostats of 6 letters from Say to Jacob Gilliams,
1819-1829, from Morristown, N. J., National Historical Park; and a biographical
note on Say. The drawings and impressions of shells are by Mrs. Lucy Way
Sistaire Say, prepared for W. G. Binney's edition of Say's complete works
on conchology, 1858; also Mrs. Say's refutation of what she considered an
unfair attack in George Ord's Memoir of Say. Correspondents include André
Etienne Férussac, Arthur F. Gray, John Lawrence Le Conte, Charles
W. Short, and others. An additional item is a memorial volume (ca. 150 pp.),
including a family genealogy and land surveys in watercolor (B Sa95f). Table
of contents (3 pp.). (B Sa95.g)"
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