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  1. ?5. #1 is correct- 1. Cézanne who thought little of Van Gogh's painting.

" Honestly, your paintings is that of a madman."

Gem_Blue.gifCézanne painting sells for $50 million

Gem_Yellow.gifVan Gogh painting sells for $57 million

 INTRODUCTION

"Cézanne painting sells for $50 million", reads the headline January 21, 1997 of issue 124 , Year 1 of ARTDAILY, THE FIRST NEWSPAPER ON THE NET. The article goes on to compare what Ronald Lauder, New York cosmetics tycoon, paid for the Cézanne's 'Still Life with Flowered Curtain and Fruit', verses the price fetched from Walter Annenberg to pay for the Van Gogh's 'Wheatfield with Cypresses'. Out of the ordinary high prices. Out of the ordinary art. Yet strangely, these almost equal prices are by two artists who did not share equal respect for each other. It is interesting that such high prices have been set into history for the artwork of two men that were both painters; one of which held the other in highest esteem, that was Van Gogh's feeling for Cézanne, while the other man, that is Cézanne, thought that Van Gogh's art was that produced by a "madman". What follows is a little exploration of this issue.

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Van Gogh and Cézanne -
Have More in Common Than Selling For Millions-
" Honestly, your paintings is that of a madman."
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The time frame is around 1886, the place is Paris,
Pére Tanguy (Julien Francois Tanguy
(1825-1894) ran a little black shop, at 14 rue Clauzel, in Paris where he sold tubes of colored paint, provided a worktable for artists, displayed and dealt artist's work. Paint tubes being a newly invented way to hold paint. (Paint tubes of tin were invented in 1841. Before that pig bladders in the form of sacks used to hold oil paint.) The invention of collapsible tin tubes of paint made it possible for the Impressionists to paint outdoors all day. ). In this way Tanguy as a dealer provided more than just a place to buy supplies. Tanguy opened his shop in 1873 and had art work by Vignon, E. Bernard, Cézanne, and from late 1886, Van Gogh's works were added. A competitor in the art supply trade at that time was Gustave Sennelier. Sennelier would open a year later in 1887, at 3 Quai Voltaire, Paris and begin selling "couleurs a l'huile", along with high quality pastels, which Sennelier himself made for Degas and also sold other art supplies. It is likely that Van Gogh never purchased from Sennelier, although the time overlaps by one year, that of 1887, aside from the fact that Van Gogh was loyal to Tanguy; and left Paris for Arles in February of 1888. "It is not hard to guess why Vincent finally took leave of Paris to go to the South. His artist friends - in particular, Toulouse-Lautrec - must certainly have sung the praises of the Midi, and cities such as Marseilles and Aix-en-Provence were closely linked with the names of predecessors such as Monticelli and Cézanne whom he admired.' from page 302 (Paris/Winter 1887-1888) of 'The Complete Van Gogh - Paintings- Drawings- Sketches' by Jan Hulsker. Van Gogh squeezed paint directly from his tubes onto the canvas at times, and therefore quickly used up the tubes of paint.
 
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" Honestly, your paintings is that of a madman."
"One afternoon when Cézanne was over at Tanguy's , Vincent , who was there for lunch, met him. They spoke together and, after talking about art in general, got around to discussing their particular views. Van Gogh thought he could not do better to explain his ideas than by showing his canvases to Cézanne and asking for his opinion. He showed him several kinds: portraits, still lifes, and landscapes. After inspecting everything,
Cézanne, who was a timid but violent person, told him, " Honestly, your paintings is that of a madman."
It is true that Cézanne was a technician, concerned solely with the abstract qualities of painting in the pursuit of a harmonious system of color, and a stylist, striving simply for a few elegant formulas. Vincent, on the other hand, saw painting as a spiritual means of expression, a literature of sorts, written in color and lines. I think it is useless to argue at length how they were both wrong. To be a master, a complete artist, all one has to do is unite the two things that they were seeking separately."
from Emile Bernard, MERCURE DE FRANCE, "Julien Tanguy, Called Le Pére Tanguy", November-December 1908.

"When the winter came he was painting portraits, and portraits always broke down his determination. He just let his brushes rip. One day, when he was with Emile Bernard, he painted at one sitting the Pére Tanguy, who sold him his colours. His brushwork was as clear-cut as sword-thrusts: he surrounded old Tanguy's rough face with an even rougher kind of of Japanese wall-paper, covered with masks, because Pére Tanguy also sold him Japanese prints. Tanguy was no fool, and kept the picture, so Vincent painted him again at home, even lighter, even more Japanese- what Vincent thought Japanese--even flatter and bolder, though he wanted to be particularly careful the second time.
From page 93, Vincent Van Gogh by Julius Meier-Graefe.

Cézanne also dismiss the talent of other artists, for example here read what he has said about Gauguin:
" Though Cézanne dismissed Gauguin as a maker of "Chinese images,", Gauguin himself was at certain moments able to assimilate aspects of Cézanne's modeling to his more decorative style. by the same token, the Fauve painters, open to the influence of both Post-Impressionists, tended especially during the transitional period of the decline of Fauvism to fuse elements of the two styles.", From footnote #57. , page 197 of an essay by William Rubin,"Cézannisme and the Beginnings of Cubism", published with the catalogue 'Cézanne - The Late Work', The Museum of Modern Art, New York, 1977.


Van Gogh and Cézanne Share Many Things In Their Art

Van Gogh and Cézanne shared many things in their art. Their use and choice of color often was similar, they both used broken contours in their outlines of forms and shapes, and they both work from the same motifs. The paint thickness was often heavy and opaque. Both artists loaded their brushes, so that the "brush was wide and heavy with paint". Both artists made several short strokes building up a weave to construct the motif.

John Rewald writes; "Though Cézanne had previously often set side by side several short strokes of the same tint, he now seemed to pick up a different hue from his palette whenever he reloaded his brush, a brush that was wide and heavy with paint, so that it could deposit large patches on the canvas. These combine into an opaque surface on which they are so densely assembled that they lose their individuality and become blotches of indistinct shape. While they are put down with remarkable authority, these blotches are interlocked so freely that the surface seems to be alive." From footnote #51. , page 402 , note on Chateau Noir, from book note by John Rewald, from "Cézanne catalogue raisonné", published within the catalogue, Cézanne - The Late Work, The Museum of Modern Art, New York, 1977.
Gem_Yellow.gifWorked from the same motifs:
Vincent about the use of Cézanne motifs --
From a letter to Emile Bernard : Van Gogh writes: "Today I have sent you nine more sketches based on painted studies. In this way you will get to see motifs for the countryside that inspires Cézanne, for the Crau in the vicinity of Aix is the same as around Tarascon and the Crau here" (Letter B11)
From page 340 (Arles/July 1888) of 'The Complete Van Gogh - Paintings- Drawings- Sketches' by Jan Hulsker,
Gem_Yellow.gifWorked with similar colors:
Cézanne often used greens, violets, ochers, and blues, but van Gogh used many similar greens, violets and ochers. Van Gogh is more often noted for his use of blue and yellow. He loved blue and yellow together and separately. Yellow held a special fascination for van Gogh. Van Gogh writes: "A sun, all light that for want of a better word I can only call yellow, pale sulfur yellow, pale gold lemon.How beautiful yellow is!" from page 106, 'Van Gogh', by Jean Leymarie, 1986. Just remember van Gogh lived in The Yellow House. Greens were from nature, but they were also found in the drink absinthe. Van Gogh painted in 1886, an absinthe bottle and a glass; which has in the upper top right, one lonely figure walking away; perhaps a portrait of himself. Neither artist were heavy on reds, although more occur in van Gogh's work.
Gem_Yellow.gifBroken contours:
Both Cézanne and van Gogh used broken contours in their outlines of objects; which wove them tighter to their surrounding space.

Gem_Yellow.gifBut more than these formal and habitual things they shared deeper bonds, other points of focus and the ability to hone in on the fascination of what ever it was that held their gaze. Gombrich mentions both Cézanne and van Gogh and how photographs juxtaposed with the actual paintings can differ in their artistic intent and delivery.

This is a long quote, both worth the read;
"Historians of art have explored the regions where Cézanne and van Gogh set up their easels and have photographed their motifs. Such comparisons will always retain their fascination . . . But however instructive such confrontations may be when handled with care, we must clearly beware of the fallacy of 'stylization.' Should we believe the photography represents the 'objective truth' while the painting records the artist's subjective vision - the way he transformed 'what he saw'? Can we here compare 'the image of the retina' with the 'image in the mind'? Such speculations easily lead into a morass of unprovables. Take the image on the artist's retina. It sounds scientific enough, but actually there never was one such image which we could single out for comparison with either photograph or painting. What there was was an endless secession of innumerable images as the painter scanned the landscape in front of him, and these images sent a complex pattern of impulses through the optic nerves to his brain. Even the artist knew nothing of these events, and we know even less. How far the picture formed in his mind corresponded to or deviated from the photograph it is even less profitable to ask. What we do know is that these artists went out into nature to look for material for a picture and their artistic wisdom led them to organize the elements of the landscape into works or art of marvelous complexity that bear as much relationship to a surveyor's record as a poem bears to a police report." 'from page 404 within the catalogue, Cézanne - The Late Work, The Museum of Modern Art, New York, 1977.
 
 
BIRTH & DEATH DATES: Gem_Blue.gifCézanne born 1839 and died in 1906 / Gem_Yellow.gifvan Gogh born 1853 and died in 1890

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    BOOKS:
    A related book flatbook.gif, pic of flat book icon- The Complete Van Gogh - Paintings- Drawings- Sketches by Jan Hulsker,
    Harrison House/Harry N. Abrams, Inc. , New York, Publishers
    ISBN 0 -517-44867X

    A related book flatbook.gif, pic of flat book icon-VAN GOGH- A retrospective, edited by Susan Alyson Stein ,
    Park Lane, Publishers , 1986,
    ISBN 0 -517-66122-5

    A related book flatbook.gif, pic of flat book icon- Vincent Van Gogh by Julius Meier-Graefe
    Blue Ribbon Books, Inc., New York City , 1933
    before ISBN numbers

    A related book flatbook.gif, pic of flat book icon-Cézanne - The Late Work, a catalogue with essay, "Cézannisme and the Beginnings of Cubism" by William Rubin
    The Museum of Modern Art, New York, 1977,
    ISBN 0-87070-278-5

    A related book flatbook.gif, pic of flat book icon- Van Gogh, by Jean Leymarie,
    Portland House, 1986
    ISBN 0-517-62644-6

    A related book flatbook.gif, pic of flat book icon- History of Color in Painting by Faber Birren
    A Van Nostrand Reinhold Book, 1965
    ISBN 0-442- 11118-5

    A related book flatbook.gif, pic of flat book icon-Absinthe - History In A Bottle by Barnaby Conrad III,
    Chronicle Books, San Francisco,1988
    ISBN 0-87701-486-8 (pbk.)

     

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